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vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 26, 2012 7:13 pm
by idvette
I had my Vision out today by myself for the first time, it was very flighty. With 1 or 2 passengers it's pretty manageable, but couldn't believe what a difference it was with just me in it. Thinking I might need to transfer some weight to the front, maybe move the battery up as well as add some weight. Any thoughts? At rest the wing tips are under water....

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 26, 2012 7:25 pm
by idvette
It's happiest between 50-65 mph, no porpoising, chine walking, nothing. Anything below that it porpoises, anything above that it chine walks. I've learned my steering's inadequate for higher speeds, so I don't expect anything more out of it for this year, but it's pretty ominous to come off plane and see the wake come up to the back seat cushion, and uncomfortable to drive under 50.

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 26, 2012 9:10 pm
by transomstand
Looks like a lot of setback, that's not helping.

Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 26, 2012 9:16 pm
by idvette
I did 6" setback, after paying a lot of attention to vector owners. If I have to trade that for less, I'm ok with that, just want to have less drama at speed.... Love the boat, want to learn how to drive it, just want to take the right approach and do it as safe as possible

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 26, 2012 9:27 pm
by idvette
I weigh about 150, my passengers today averaged about 170, and it felt like the boat just wanted to turn into a kite and fly away over 60, kinda disappointed in buying the jackplate, except for the improved lower speed handling.

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 27, 2012 5:10 pm
by 265mercman
get you a bobs machine allison plate to put on your cavitation plate it will help alot with proposing and the vision is alot like my vking iam running 3.5 set back but my vector i run 6inch on it
i got a 200 merc on the back of mine and mine dont set back near as far in the back as yours
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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 27, 2012 5:22 pm
by idvette
Do those plates really work as advertized? I see a lot of different designs, the marinas I've been to seem to all carry the stingray line in 3 different models. I'm also going to throw some sandbags up in the bow, hope the added weight helps

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 27, 2012 11:45 pm
by 77viper
A plate on the cavitation plate will help plane faster and stay on plane at a lower speed.

As for the Weight issue i'm tunning my battery im the bow and a 2.5" jackplate on my viper. My fuel tank is also moved forward.

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 28, 2012 6:04 am
by idvette
I have an 11gal aluminum tank in the middle behind the back seat. I don't want to lose the seat, so moving that isn't an option right now. Plus it's variable weight, I'm looking for a consistent solution. I'll look at some plates, see what's available up here, and play with some sand bags.

The problem I guess is I'm between a Viper and Vector for size, with a V-King hull. The tried and tested setups you guys have aren't all going to have the same results for me. I'll just have to keep at it and not let "little setbacks" get me down lol

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Re: vision is VERY back end heavy

Posted: May 28, 2012 10:50 am
by JUPITER VALERO
idvette, I think you'll gain confidence with more seat time. The 6" setback will definitly help your top end speed numbers. Tight steering and solid motor mounts will help eliminate some of the chine walking...along with more seat time. You can move your battery to the bow; just make sure that you build a sturdy mount and secure the battery well because that's where most of the bouncing takes place. You also may try some different props to improve your handling. The Trophy Plus is one of the best handling props out there. The smaller diameter blades help reduce the torque steer and the 4 blades give you plenty of bite and accelleration. The same goes for the Mazco RE4. Motor height will also make a big difference in your handling. The higher the motor, the less gearcase in the water, equals less hydrodynamic drag and more speed but more torque steer. Less gear case in the water will also help alleviate your chinewalk. Play with your motor heights. Hope this helps..