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1980 Viper Rebirth

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Re: 1980 Viper Rebirth

Post: # 23096Post AdamDK »

Well I had a week off work, but since the house I'm in is for sale, we had viewings and stuff scheduled that interrupted my working time throughout the week. Suffice to say I didn't get as much done as I hoped, but its a start.

First I patched the holes in the pad with some CSM.
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Then started laying down the 1.5oz CSM on the hull.

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Now due to the nature of laying the CSM and trying my damndest to get the air bubbles out, I did create some clumps and lumps in the mat that the 1708 hates.

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I bought a carbide rasp attachment for my oscillating tool and had to grind down the bumps.
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18 yard roll of 50" wide 1708 biaxial. When I bought it I wanted 20 yards, but the roll only had 18 on it so I had said screw it. I'll use this for now and if I need more I'll get more later.
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So basically I put a strip of CSM up the pad from the transom up the where the "V" starts.
Then I put down (in sections) a layer of CSM over the entire hull, including the transom.
I then added a second layer of CSM on the transom with about 4 inches of overlap on each side.

A couple days later I tried laying the first strip of 1708 and discovered that it hates bumps and pointy sharp sections of mat. That's when I had to grind them all down.

I've got 5 strips of 1708 laid down the pad, with about 2-3 inches of overlap on each strip, from the transom all the way up to the tip of the bow.
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1708 on the transom - this was fun....note the sarcasm.
I put a section down on the port side with about 4 inches overlap on the side "wing", and cut at the bottom to go over that curved transom "notch".
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Then another piece centred in the transom with about 1 inch overlap on the port piece. Then another piece with 1 inch overlap on the centre and 4 inches overlap on the starboard side "wing".

The second layer was in 2 sections - each starting at the outer edges of the previous motor mounting holes and onto the "wings" right to their respective corners.
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Then finally a 3rd layer of 1708 across the entire transom with about 3 inches overlap onto each side wing and the transom notch.
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Overkill? Probably. But I want to build this thing like a tank.

Not pictured: On Tuesday I picked up a 4ft x 8ft sheet of 3/4" marine grade plywood (13-ply) for my transom; and two sheets of 4ft x 10ft 3/4" exterior grade mahogany plywood (11-ply) for my stringers and floor.

Hopefully this coming week I can get the rest of the hull covered with the 1708, and then prep for the balsa core bagging.
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Firefox is the only good browser. Internet Exploder sucks, and Chrome just sends all your data to Google.

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All pictures working perfectly fine here in MN on chrome on my phone, Firefox and Chrome on my desktop. :up:

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Sunday May 13th 2018:

Started laying the 1708 down on the hull. I got the port side done the hard way....folding and wetting out, folding and wetting out, etc.
I tried a different method on the starboard side, and I have to say it was much easier.

With my pre-cut piece laying mat side down, I slathered the resin all over the top (cloth side). I then rolled it onto a piece of 2" diameter plastic plumbing pipe. The excess resin was soaked up by the mat side. Once I had it all rolled up, i moved it to the boat and unrolled it, rolling and squeegeeing out the excess resin as I moved it along.

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So now that's done, finally.

Next I'm going to be building a resin trap with a mounted vacuum gauge in preparation of infusing my balsa core. I know i don't need it, but I like doing little projects like this. I've got all the parts for it already, just have to put it together.

I do have several spots in the 1708 with air pockets. I couldn't get them out no matter how much rolling i did. So before I infuse my core, I'm gonna slice them open so they'll get filled with resin under vacuum.
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Looking awesome! :up: Can't wait to see the whole bagging set up and process.
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Saturday May 26th 2018:

Measured and cut my transom today. Using 3/4" marine-grade 13-ply BS1088 plywood.

Using a straight-edge, I penciled on a 2 inch square grid.
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I then proceeded to drill holes as per the grid with a 1/8th inch bit..
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I soaked the transom with resin, laid on a piece of 1.5oz mat, wetted that out. Added a second piece of mat, wetted that out..
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I soaked the underside of the other piece of transom and laid it on top, getting the edges lined up.

I built 5 clamps using 4x4s and sandwiched 2x4's and 1/2"dia-8" lag bolts.
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First I used 1-1/4" drywall screws in the first row of holes to make sure the plywood wouldn't slide as I attached the clamps.

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Tomorrow:
-trim the glass edges.
-use a router to cut a radiused edge along 3 sides of the transom (because my transom skin on the hull has a radius along the sides and bottom due to adding glass layers.)
-test fit the transom.
-bond and clamp the transom using ATC Core-Bond.
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June 2nd-June 6th, 2018:

After letting the transom cure for a few days, it was time to fine-tune the fitting.

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I used a circular saw to bevel the bottom edge of the transom to match the angle.

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Notice how the top of my transom skin is slightly bowing out. This would be an issue later as I'll explain.

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Then went to work on the bottom corners with my grinder to match the contours.

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Due to the added glass layers on the transom skin, I had a curved radius along the sides and bottom. I used my router with a 1/4" radius roundover bit. I rounded both edges along the top (to allow easier laying of glass in the future), both side edges (transom skin-side), and along the bottom (transom skin-side)

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Once I had the transom fitted as best I could, back on the table it went.

I resin primed the back side...let that sit for 2 hours while it got tacky, then laid on another 2 layers of mat.

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Using Scott Bader ATC Core-Bond B72 R (regular), I troweled that onto the transom skin.
And yes, I catalyzed it with 2% MEKP as per instructions.

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I constructed 6 clamps with 2x4's, 12" length 1/2" threaded rods, washers and nuts.
For fun, I wanted to see how much clamping pressure I could create.
Tested it on the bathroom scale.

200 pounds, and I figure I could probably tighten it further.

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Two days later, I removed the clamps.

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My transom skin is a quarter inch thick.....so as you can see, it was really difficult to get the top of the transom skin flush with the new transom. I clamped the hell out of this, to the point where the washers on my clamps started embedding themselves into the wood.

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But the gap seems to be maybe 2 inches deep, so I'll have to pick up some large syringes and squirt resin into there to fill the void. And some heavy duty C-clamps to see if I can flatten it.

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Next, grinding/sanding down the clumps of corebond, and finishing off my supplies shopping to bag my balsa core.
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Looking good. :up:
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great work!!
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