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Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 14, 2013 7:12 pm
by Andrew Vision
would you be able to send me a sample link for the cleaver?

Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 14, 2013 7:13 pm
by Andrew Vision
What price should i be looking at ?

Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 14, 2013 7:36 pm
by Andrew Vision
you get a look at the core at the time?

Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 14, 2013 8:28 pm
by idvette
I didn't physically look at the boat, just a ton of pics and talked to the guy a few times. He was a decent guy, put a lot of work into it. It's a nice boat, I just liked having the bigger motor and bigger prop. This is what a cleaver looks like...

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Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 15, 2013 4:55 am
by Andrew Vision
Beauty's thanks so much......any idea on the shaft diameter of the xr2 ?

Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 16, 2013 7:53 am
by Andrew Vision
idvette wrote:Post up some pictures already!!! Lol.. I bought mine with a 30 pitch on it, 3 blade Merc chopper, and I had a hard time controlling the boat. I traded for a 23 3 blade chopper and it made a world if difference. I' like to try out a cleaver in the 26-28 range....

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Wouldn't a chopper prop have too much bow lift for a light 16 ft? I was thinking cleaver as well. Thoughts?

Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 16, 2013 9:31 am
by idvette
I definitely want to try a cleaver. When I put the jack plate on I still had the 30 on it, and any stab at the throttle at any speed would send the nose skyward. The 23 is too small, but it's more tame.

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Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 16, 2013 11:23 am
by Andrew Vision
what would the advantage/ disadvantage of going to a larger pitch cleaver be?

Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 16, 2013 12:24 pm
by idvette
As with any prop, the higher the pitch the further the theoretical travel per revolution.

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Re: Merc xr2 prop on vision ce

Posted: Apr 16, 2013 6:39 pm
by Sonik
My .02 on this....

A chopper or ET is where you want to be in the end unless ALL you want to do is top end solo runs. Cleavers are lazy out of the hole and do not carry weight well. I've run a dozen or so choppers on my boat, both small and big ear, and a handful of ET's as well. A well worked chopper will be your ticket for an all around prop, it will carry weight well, holeshot well, and lift the boat allowing you to run a more neutral trim (reducing a chance of a blowout). Until recently, I ran this prop below, a small ear 28P heavily worked by DAH which worked VERY well with the 2 liter/ 1.87 sporty....83mph @ 6400 with propshaft maybe a smidge above even. If you look at the 3rd pic, you'll see a fairly significant amount of cup over an out of the box chopper. (shameless plug - its for sale)

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NOW, I will tell you this is no longer the prop for MY boat due to the increase in power and speed. When you start playing around well into the 90's, at least in a shovel-nosed hull like the Viper, you don't need, or want, the bow lift because the boat does it on its own at those speeds. I'm going to a 28-32P ET as every ET I've ever borrowed and previously run on the boat reduced prop torque at the wheel significantly over a chopper, allowed the boat to run flatter and higher, and gave the boat better manners all around.

I too want to try a cleaver to see where I end up on the big end, although if I bought one, it would be a limited-duty prop for me due to the characteristics I mentioned above. :up:

Jeff